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November 19th, 2011

Is MW3 Lag Compensation penalizing players with faster connections?

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Yes it does, according to Twitter and all the Call of Duty and MW3 forums. There are many players complaining that the Modern Warfare 3 “Lag Compensation” system is actually penalizing gamers with faster internet connections and the problem seems to be worst on PS3.

The concept behind lag compensation is that they “compensate” players with faster connections to make it a more even playing field. By doing this nobody has an advantage for having a faster connection. Although this might appear to be a good idea in theory, it’s not at all an exact science.

The game evaluates each gamers ping in the room and takes the average. For instance if the average ping in the room is 60ms, but your personal ping is 20ms, you will then be slowed down so that you won’t have an advantage. Now the person with 120ms ping in the room is sped up to the level that he won’t have a disadvantage.

Having said that what is happening in MW3 is that anyone with a good connection lags 1 to 2 seconds behind individuals with not so good connections. This is clearly unjust to all the people that take online gameplay “seriously” and thus have a very good connection to enhance their online experience.

There are even a number of petitions on the official Call of Duty forum to “tweak the lag compensation system” or “eliminate the lag compensation”, which will not happen for obvious reasons. There’s no word from developers as to whether or not they’re aware that this is even a problem, let alone if they have intentions to fix it. However if you due experience these problems we recommend you let Infinity Ward and Robert Bowling realize that we have a problem!! We have also included a few videos from YouTube to demonstrate the problem.

People with better connections are experiencing the lag and the people with poorer connections are the ones who experience no lag. Does that make any sense? Let us know in the comment section.

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74 Comments


  1. Mike

    I’m really tired of people whining all the time. I saw nothing but bad gameplay in both of these videos. The second one, the guy has an accent. He’s most likely just playing on an international connection…where there is ALWAYS going to be lag on a nondedicated server. Quit your crying and learn how to play. Quit blaming the damn connection.


  2. ok… lag compensation whatever stuff – i think its in ur head.
    i watched the video muted and i noticed only a little bit of ur lag.

    i have a bad ping myself, and im doomed to it – the router box for my service is two blocks away.

    this is nothing compared to what i experienced in mw2 and definetly looks like the best connection in the world compared to bo

    did i complain? no. its a game. chill.

    im not about to buy a brand new wireless internet service for which i will have to pay for monthly just so i can play better.

    and the person with the first comment, Mike, has really good points.


  3. Yo mama

    For everyone who is saying “dont blame the connection” crap, needs to read the news up top again because like it says, the people with the good connection experiences the lag and the ones who have crappy internet services doesn’t. So if you’re saying that you have not experienced the lag and that other people should stop crying about it then that means you’re the one with a crappy internet service and probably wont understand why a lot of people complain about the lag.


  4. That1GUYPHILL

    Okay, the lag compensation thing is kinda dumb, why not make the match making where people with 40 ping play with others with a 40 ping and so on so forth, but noting that this may be impossible, people shouldnt be penalized for having a good connection.
    A friend of mine told me to hold the right trigger (xbox) and X at the same time, so i did and come to see i shot 4 time but it counted as 1, not knowing if thats just a glitch or actual lag.


  5. Grammar

    @Mike, you're a fool. If you don't notice the lag, you're blind. According to speedtest.net, I have 9 ms Ping, 43.1mbps down and 31.66mbps up, at 1:32pm on a Sunday. Prime time for bandwidth to be used. But I'm getting one to two second lag delays, and I can watch them on the kill cam where my knife didn't even go near a player when, on my screen, I knifed him and saw blood. Or when I've had my crosshairs held on someone while burst firing, and on their screen my bullets weren't coming during the kill cam. No excuse for this, it's not my problem that others don't have a better connection. I do live in the Washington D.C. area so FiOS is readily available but that's beside the point. I shouldn't be getting bullcrap deaths because I have a superior connection. It's not a matter of "get better at the game." And to be honest, if we all had a steady connection, I guarantee I'd be one of the top players in a match. But lag ruins it for everyone, and this "compensation" crap is exactly that, crap.


  6. thai boxer

    I agree with what was said in the post ima hella good player and now I see why my good ethernet connection is poor, so people like these 2 noobs up here who obviously have no money to afford what I have are happy now that they have a chance with players like me. I think its messed up now they dont have to complain were to fast for them I have always been a devoted fan of infinity wards cod but this MW has let me down in so many ways this lag comp. is the main reason of many im disappointed I reserved this game. This one nowhere compares to MW2 or COD4 which started it all for me. They tried to hard and now BF has taken this year.


  7. Ron

    The lag is so bad on PS3 the game is unplayable. I wish i had never bought Elite cause I don't know how much longer I'm going to play it like this. On day one it was perfect, had no lag. Then there was an update and it's been garbage ever since. I'm going to give it a few weeks and if the lag is not fixed I will trade it in for Battlefield and never buy another COD again. Lag was bad on Black Ops and was one big reason why I wanted MW3 so bad, I thought the lag would be fixed. But it is worse. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER IW OR I WILL QUIT YOU!


  8. tom

    Thanks for the video. I just checked my ping and it was .23 avg. It explains why I am getting hammered in MW3. I watch kill cams like yours and once I unloaded a full clip rapid fire and it showed me not even getting a shot off! Im going to stop playing coz it is frustration me.


  9. Anonymous

    It never fails when you get hit by one bullet, run past a wall and the bullets just lag on


  10. P

    What a stupid idea! It's a turnoff


  11. Anonymous

    I'd noticed it but wasn't sure what it was. Thanks for clearing it up. It sucks. If this doesn't get resolved I'll be looking for a different game. Very disappointing!


  12. MF

     
    I, for one, am all for anything that helps level the playing field when it comes to the disparity between internet connection speeds on Xbox Live.  The gamers with a high speed connection as fast as a T1 or FIOS service should consider themselves lucky– most people are stuck with a small fraction of that speed.  That's right– we're stuck with whatever is available in our area.  So it doesn't matter how good you are or how much you are willing to pay for faster service– if it ain't available, you're out of luck.  The fastest residential DSL connection I can get here is 8mbps down and a measly 1 mbps up, (right now with an average 81ms ping).  Broadband cable service sucks even worse.  Truly crappy compared with all you guys running around like speed demons. 


  13. Anonymous

    the best way to fix the problem is to play hardcore.. i been havent the delay as well , im on a docsis 3 with roadrunner and i noticed the delay . I only play hardcore from now on , try that and see for yoursef , cause u dont have to put a whole clip just few bullets and there done.


  14. Ryan

    I agree 100% with this article.  I play on xbox live and my connection gets screwed on MW3.  My gameplay is similar to the videos as far as the lag.  I play Gears of War 3 as well and host the majority of the matches.  No lag playing gears and everyone on both teams seem to run just as well.  I have 20mbps download and 2mbps upload.  Battlefield 3 on the PC runs fine with no lag.  MW3 is the only game I experience these issues.  Until this issue is resolved, I guess I will play gears and battlefield 3.


  15. Anonymous

    I will get so much hate for this, but whatever.  This really is another excuse for stupid deaths.  And the pissed off people who are claiming to be "amazing," just stop.  If you were as good as you claimed, you should be able to beat the people with bad connections.  I have personally played with both good and bad connections, and have seen no game changing difference.  Oh, and did I mention that it is just a game?


  16. Dave

    its not an excuse for stupid deaths ive got fibre optic connection but it feels like im playing on some albanian network on black ops i held a 3kd i can barely touch a 2kd and this game is easier so the ones who cant afford good connection get an easy life while the rest of us get screwed over.simple.


  17. James

    Kinda sucks cause I paid for 50Mb broadband in preparation for Mw3. Whenever I pull host i get no bullet registration and a load of instant deaths. I'm from the UK and played with some of my friends from the US on their connection and I had 2 MOABs in six games, back to my host and I'm going 26-21, fix it please!


  18. Paul88

    I think it's a good idea in theory but they clearly can't implement it perfectly. If that's the case then they should just take it out, if they really care about everyone having a fair connection, introduce dedicated servers instead of trying to cut corners and save money!


  19. MW3 is playable again

    Thanks to this article I've fixed my lag problem.  How you ask? 
    My internet connection at around 20-25mb download and about 8-11mb upload via speedtest.net. So to fix this problem, I slowed down my connection. If your router supports QOS, you can use that to throttle your connection to your ps3. Or you can flash your router using software from http://www.dd-wrt.com | Unleash Your Router, which will allow you to throttle your bandwidth. I've throttled mine down to about a 1-2mb connection going to my ps3.
    So with that done, I've fixed any lag that I may have had before, especially on ground war and domination. I've played about 3 hours without any lag at all. Finally, this game is playable now.  I could have waited for infinity ward to fix the problem, but instead I rather do what I could on my end.  It works, and it's simple. 


  20. Billy Bob

    The people who are saying "yeah, yeah get over it" have obviously never experienced what I have experienced.  I have a good connection, and I get completely screwed all the time.  The kill cam says it all – I see an enemy and start to fire, after seeing my weapon fire 6 or 8 shots into my enemy's face, I see what appears to be one round come out of his gun (ANY gun, not just Type 95's and shotties), and I'm dead.  When I watch the kill cam it shows that I never even got my gun up, much less fired a shot.  From his perspective, I was just a statue waiting to have my nuts shot off.  THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED.  I shouldn't have to throttle my connection back to get a fair game.  If it is not fixed, I will sell the game and go back to black ops!


  21. Not So Noob

    Anyone who thinks that the lag is just in our minds is dead wrong. Black Ops had some issues but this is ridiculous. What I've seen on here is exactly what I have experienced duing game play.  I must add that I don't think that my internet is that fast… but I am dealing with this everytime I've played. After tonight's experience, I think I'm done. COD is getting nothing more from me…. I got ELITE and all, but it just ain't worth it!


  22. KMac2615

    This lag connection is legit. My gf can get on the PC and mess with my connection and I do about 60% better. When nobody around is using the PC but me, I get my ass handed to me.


  23. Spector5

    Lag compensation is very real. Now his take on it is not compensation, but merely lag. I have expeirence it first hand now that I have upgraded to the fast internet think "Well hell, I'm getting 20+ kills almost every rnd, Why not speed things up and upgraded my internet to the fast speed my provider has.
    Real lag compensation is the break down or the adjustment for the internet speeds to make it fair. However, Like said before its not what he is showing us. Lag compensation is best described as say you are engaging the opposing player. You have at least shot him 4-5 times and then all of a sudden he hits you with one round and drops you. However, you go back and watch the killcam and he clearly has engaged you first and has gotten at least 3-4 hit markers on you before you even lift your weapon to engage. Another prime example is when you engage someone on there flank but yet again after 4-5 shots they still kill you with one shot. But in your t.v you clearly unloaded into the guy and he visually never turns his body to engage. But again in his killcam. He has you engaged from the start and as actually been hitting you with countless rounds before you even get a shot off. I noticed this right off the bat within the last two days of upgrading. My kills have went to shit compared to where they were before and it seems to happen everysingle time.
    This is not complaining, but it is real and it is truley outragous that they would ever integrate such a stupid and pointless software into the game. Apparently the old saying means nothing " Pay to play" So your telling me joe dip shit can cheap out for the crap internet and spank my ass because of peer stupidity and trying to equal the playing field which clearly is B.S. Then you need to rethink your shit.


  24. Juice

    I have a fast connection. Why should I be punished because others don't? If your connection sucks you should have to accept that you can't compete at the same level. I'm so sick of COD games lagging, I love them but it's no fun when the lag determines the outcome of every kill/death. If they don't do something to fix this I'll never buy another COD game.


  25. Juice

    On another note: maybe if you can't afford a good connection but want to play games online you should do something to change that. People with pathetic connections should stop screwing it up for everyone else. If your Internet sucks, play offline. 


  26. Juice

    I guess the idea is this: some people don't have a good gaming experience so we'll screw it up for everybody. It's like socialism, some people aren't happy so let's make everyone unhappy. 


  27. Simon Miller

    this lag compensation is absolute bullshit!! i have 30mg download speed and i dont see why the fuck i should be penalised because of poor bastards out there who cant afford to have a decent connection speed.. im a HUGE fan of COD games but this is really PISSING ME OFF!!!!!! sort it out IW or your gunna lose a LOT of players…


  28. tired

    the so called "lag compensation" program or any other program cant "speed up" a connection, you get that high ping because it takes that long for the packet to make the round trip from the host to the client. It can only slow down other players connected to the host to make it appear faster.

    But too much and penalizing for having a faster system?
     
    Nobody really knows unless they have a inside scoop. Personally I think something is messing with the data flow because I seem to get a hole second delay when watching replays.


  29. tired

    sorry but one more thing.

    Its not just people with good connections being penalized. My connection is very unstable in the sense the ping can be high as 80ms and low as 8ms.

    If a lag compensation system was active it would have a hard time setting a fair speed form my spiky connection.


  30. Doggy-B

    I have a very nice connection, better than most…. Far better. It always makes me host and when it does, unless everyone in the game has a good connection too. … Well some times I am so lagged out I do no damage at all. I shot a guy 8 times with a striker… and then he shot me what looked like a shotgun blast but was him using a g3 rifle. Game blows bad.


  31. robert

    I also noticed this, i actuly quit playing for the first week i had the game, because i kept getting so frustrated. I kept asking my self, why the players with the worst connection bars on the score board have the most kills. Now i see why. Solution? Hardcore. only need a few shots to kills someone, and onle one shot with a sniper rifle which is my personal fav.


  32. Chuck

    This lag compensation is real. I have Verizon 25/25 FIOS. I’ve DMZ and port forwarding and alternated the DNS 20ms ping. My nat type is always open. I have 5 bars mostly with my connection. The PS3 internet test 16 to 25 down and 4 to 8 up. The game developers are more concerned about the minority than the few. If they where really concern about fair game play you would see HD mode and standard mode for those without HD or a free HD TV‘s for those that don‘t, LOL. This doesn’t even resolve benefits of scale size with larger TV’s. This is going to be my last COD game. The cheap poorly designed lag compensation that doesn’t fluctuate with the internet and has killed the game play for me. MW3 game play is rigged and there is nothing we can do about it. They don’t even have the audacity comment to the issues or complaints about it. Sony needs to stand up and stop this crap before more developers follow suit. MW3 sucks and is a Lie.


  33. FastConnex

    I'm sick of this game already. I have a very good connection and keep being cursed with being the "host" way too often. This puts me last on the list for the hit count in addition to the pansy ass "lag compensation" in this POS game. BTW, when I'm the host, I will wait until some asshole with an AC130 starts blasting away then I will pull the plug. Wonder why you get that "lost connection to server" message? LOL.
    It is impossible to compete in every match. Sometimes, I can leave a game and luck up on a good connex in the next game I get into. That is the only somewhat predictable way to sometimes find a game that feels right.  Looks like the ball has been dropped AGAIN just like in Black Ops. I had to quit playing BO altogether about a year ago. If you don't agree with me or want to call me a whiner. F*** Y***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  34. Todd Gekler

    Everyone can say what they want but this guy is right on the mark with what he says about his experience. Since I've upgraded to 30mbps download and 30upload I've noticed the same crap ass play from Modern Warfare. It basically comes down to a Playstation Network issue. It sucks to pay for **quality** internet with highspeeds and then you get crap results from other players have garbage connections. 
    A great solution would be to link people up with quality ping and dump the rest of the people with garbage connections into other rooms. 


  35. Anonymous

    The only problem that i have in this game and it always piss me off is that when i try to aim fast and start shooting the guy direct shots… the first 4 or 5 bullets always miss for some reason. I want to blame my connection but  now imma start blaming the game because it always happen to me. It's really annoying and retarded.


  36. Burto

    Do u reckon machinima respawn would not have an Internet service that dominates? Of course they would, all they do is gaming. They would have amazing Internet capabilities. Which means they also would get hit hard with lag compensation. Do the likes of seananners or tbnrFRAGS complain? No. They continue to rape face purely because if a player is skilled enough this compensation won't matter. And games where they may get owned by it they still don't whinge. Which is weird considering they are playing cod for their livelihood. Whereas so many people complain about this when they take it so seriously and DONT HAVE TO. I get lag. EVERYONE gets lag. Get over it and stop complaining. It's just a game after all


  37. Donelley

    Lag compensation should not disapear, but IT SHOULD be used differently. it should divide lobbys by internet connection, so that way people with poor (slow) internet connection can play in their lobbys, and people with decent (faster) conection can play as well. People please stop talking crap and discriminating others with slow connection. what if they can afford even a faster connection than yours, but that connection is just NOT available where they live?


  38. Joey

    I play at home and at work…my work connection is DSL and my home connection is cable.  I do great at work and horrible at home.  Lag compensation is an issue…


  39. Kev

    Burto, don't be so naive! Of course the groups that you mention will have top connections but they're going to be playing with other groups with top connections. Lag compensation won't be an issue!
    Also, stop being discriminatory snobs about buying the best internet. I bet half of you are spoilt brats who don't pay for it yourself anyway. Besides, if fast internet isn't available in your area, no amount of your Dad's money will change that!


  40. Chilly

    We should be able to get our money back for this POS and possible a class action suit because this game is nearly unplayable.  Black OPS had issues but not to the point you can't hardly play because of the lag.


  41. Tired of it

    Ok, I get what you are all saying about "People blaming connection problems when they really just suck", but hear me out. In every COD I've played, 4 bar and open NAT type all day everyday. Now that I'm in MW3 I still have the open NAT, but literally every. single. game. I have a 3 bar and I'm getting shot around corners that I went through 2 seconds ago, its ridiculous. I seriously don't see why its fair that I have to lag because everyone else's connection is poo-poo. This shit needs to get outta the game. It makes more sense if the people that have bad connection… have bad connection… not the other way around. I honestly don't understand what IW was thinking.


    • this sucks.. i just got on MW2 and played a quick game on Afghan, went 22-3..
      then i get on MW3 and i go 5-21, and the only kills i got were from claymores
      i thought my connection was shit, but apparently it's great?? wtf i dont get it
      i know when i shoot a guy 50 times and he won't go down, then he just walks right up to me and knifes me, that is total bullshit, it is not the way the game was meant to be played


  42. codAtomic

    Im glad i read this. i am about to upgrade my connection speed from 12.5mgs to 60mgs. due to i feel like there is not difference in the lag time at all. i am a 9 year veteran of the call of duty series and have played on both pc and console systems being that on pc is really where the connection speed actually matter but nontheless i have noticed that in one game i was playing this guy with 120mgs always had full bars where i only had a few. this being said i will be sure to come back and give an update if i see a lag difference all i want is to have full connection in every game idc if it equals out or not just that when i shot at someone it will actually count btw im ranked 6th in the world ffa at my current connection speed i can only imagin what ill be after the upgrade check out my youtube channel at codAtomic for more about this and what i feel is the difference after the upgrade.


  43. codAtomic

    Yoh briliant idea i just had. i understand people are posting petitions on forums for mw3 to correct this. instead of targeting iw to fix this yet i do believe it is iw that should correct it. how about we contact our isp and say hey these people use your internet to make there money i and everyone else that bought or upgraded our connection just for gaming will be down grading unless you make the company that makes there money through your serves listen to the people that pay for good shit and fuck the poor ass fucks that dont pay to play. NOW THAT IS ONLY FAR for real. thumbs up


  44. Rhynri

    The sad irony about the grousing over connection speeds is that without this compensation, there is minimal difference between 60-80-120ms.  Your console+TV will be adding almost 200ms to this time anyway (part of the reason PCs cannot play consoles fairly, they add at most 15-30ms) and even then you are still under 1/4th a second.  RTCW: Enemy Territory and UT2k4 both had user made mods (ET Pro, etc) that compensated for lag without this mess, and led to both parties feeling as though they got fair treatment, by evaluating lag from both parties to a SERVER.  I am sure that you may have noticed playing MW3 on a dedicated server (not sure if consoles can do this) alleviates most of these issues, if not all of them.  Unfortunately, IW has not seen fit to allow the accrual of points on dedicated servers (despite the more secure environment) and instead we have this issue, partly do to the fact that IW is using old engine tech (they are cheap that way) that still has the same kind of issues that Quake 3 did when it first used the engine.  (BLOPs even had the switch for dial up on initially, so no matter what your connection was, the engine thought it was 56k)  The only way to change the situation is to vote with your dollars, next year, when the next half-baked iteration appears.


  45. Suicide-G

    I have the same problems, 1 game good 1bad ??? Then patch, I will go a week and it's ok then there will be days that it unplayable and very frustrating. I have a good connection 30 down 10 up and 5-10 ping. I am a pretty good player 2 kd in BLkOps and 1.65 mw3.. It's just very diss appointing ….


  46. RHUNS

    I'm a fair to mediocre player, and I usually play with better players, so any bit of induced lag hurts a lot. I don't make a lot of money and gaming is important to me. I purchased FIOS 35up/35down so I would be able to game without lag. It is incredibly frustrating to see someone beforethey see you, get anywhere from 3 to 6 shots on them before they fire, then have them kill you. In the replay, you rarely even seem to get one shot off. I dealt with this when I had 5down/0.5up and lived with it, cause that's the way it was…. now I pay for speed and don't expect to be penalized. Looks like the "dumbing down" of america has come to MW3 ! So, whats left of IW after all the good people got the hell out, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER ! Too bad Ghost Recon has taken so long to produce another game….I would never have played any of this shit ! This will be the last time I spend $100 on any COD title .. I don't care if you fix this or not .. not only does the lag suck, but when I try to load the online multiplayer, my xbox stutters an chokes for like two minutes, once on, I'm always the last to arrive in the room or last to get back to the lobby… I've cleared my cache several times, sometimes it helps for a game or two, but that's it.. no other COD game does this….it's pure shit.


  47. ace

    This has been the biggest pain, it makes rushing almost impossible. Regardless how smart I play, and how fast my reflexes are, it makes is much more difficult to win 1v1 or 2v1 engagements. I went from a 2 kd player to struggling to get a 1.5 and over 15 kills in a game. I know I'm a good player, and its bullshit that when i take all that time to flank and start getting kills, i get killed by some random .85 bumrusher when i go for the dropshot. Absolutely ridiculous. not saying rushing is generally a good idea, but these players shouldn't be getting these kills just because they are a step ahead now connection wise.


  48. Joe

    I'm new to gaming – I thought I sucked – but kept t it – I have Hi speed FIOS. as i got better it got worse – last knight I walked into a room – snuck up on a sniper & scattered his brains – BUT  on the kill cam He shot me as I waled thru the door. HOW can that happen. So many time Put a clip in someone and nothing – last night I was being made fun of by other players for standing still and dieing all the time. – I'm not that bad.


  49. phil

    I totally agree the lag compensation is bull for people with good connection. Why should we carry people with crap connections, who cant be bothered to sort there connections out. In the past three days especially after the update, i struggle to have a normal game with no lag its bloody stupid IW need to sort it !!!


  50. Bully

    I know there are some who don’t take their gaming seriously, but for some, who spend 2 hundy a month on their connection and port forward their router to further optimize connection speed not to gain an advantage per se but to ensure minimal lag…it is enraging to see some noob kill you before you even see him and watch the killcam only to witness that he saw you a full second before he began to shoot. What’s worse-he only has 3 Fu@$n BARS!!!!! Way to turn MW franchise into Galo! Get with it Infinity Ward!!!


  51. Drew6336

    See I just bought Modern Warfare 3 on 2/17/2012 because Steam knocked it down 33% so it was only 40 bucks.  I have played all Modern Warfare's on my computer and I don't play the off spins like Black Ops and such because I would get burnt out on COD.  I have NEVER had any lag problems with any of these games or any game in general.  After reading this it makes sense to me now because I would always lag even with 4 bars in green.  I will email Infinity and hope they fix this soon because if they do not then I will get Battle Field 3 since its 64 players on PC.  Thanks for sharing this article and I hope they fix it, not for just my sake but for the sake of everyone that paid money for this game to just have them penalize you for making sure you have a high end internet connection. 


  52. Don Bee

    I play MW3 on the wii and have the same problems….No hit markers…….Its crazy. I have good internet connection too. 


  53. RRidge

    This lag thing is the worst. I have a great connection and im a beast in mw2 (30-1) n black ops 30-2 n i cant even get more kills then deaths in mw3 cause of this. I thought it could be the connection so I actually restarted my bo at rank 1 n won the level. Im not losing cause i suck. It really makes the game not worth playing, everyones laggin. I have to shoot where they might b. They need to do something cause i feel totally ripped off. 


  54. TinyLittleTimmy

    well i guess it’s back to dialup for me then


  55. TinyLittleTimmy

    the lag for those of us with HIGH SPEED INTERNET MAKE THE GAME UNPLAYABLE I have 3 accountsm at my 3 differnt houses, k/d.33 on 30meg down 3meg up, k/d1.3 on 15down 1up, k/d 1.6 on 1.5 meg download 512k upload, SLOW INTERNET MEANS BETTER K/D

    People with lag switches get banned, then they patch it so that eneryone with a trashy connection gets to use a LAG Switch for Free all the time. Why are we penalized for upping our game with a dedicated fast line for gaming? Why are slow moes getting host? Take this off!


  56. Grace

    Dude, they sold 3.3 million cpioes in the first 24 hours of its release including digital presales, and 4.7 million cpioes in its first month of release. Black ops sold 5.6 million in a DAY. The largest amount sold in entertainment (books dont count i guess, its more movies, music, games). So yes it is the largest seller in the entertainment industry.


  57. Jaita

    mark snodgrass / i agree, lag is a seuiors issue in mw3, all my friends agree and half of them stopped playing mw3.


  58. Tyler

    I too thought it was my internet connection causing the Lost Connection to Host issue, but after doing all the fixes and troubleshooting (on a broadband modem network that I've never had any problems with), and then doing the research on the internet and seeing just how many other people were having issues with this, I know its the game/network now.
    Your internet connection is fine, so is your router.  There's no need to try to do all of these tweaks in hopes of trying to resolve the issue.  The problem resides on the MW3 side, particularly the lag compensation system being used, which is causing all of these disconnects and lag issues – which span from Lost Connection to Host all the way to the bullets still hitting you 10 yards around the cement corner.  
     
    It's March 18th, 2012 today.  I'll give MW3 one more week.  If it's not fixed by then I'm done.
    Sad, I was in my 7th prestige………


  59. Jim

    I see just the opposite… I have a 1mb connection, but only get avg 256 kbps (1/4 mb), while the US average on the internet is 6 mb with some up as high as 25 mb – 50 mb on fiber optic connections. 
    I play regular games (not hard core) to check the problem because it shows you a kill cam of the other player's perspective. In almost every case I see an opponent and fire first, sometimes from behind, and still get killed. From my perspective, I saw him first and unloaded up to a half of a clip on him, but on the kill cam it shows me not even reacting to him and he just kills me with a few shots…
    someone please explain that to me if slower connections are supposed to have some advantage. The other thing is that ping is a stupid way to determine any adjustment. The problem is bandwidth (faster connection means more data in a shorter amount of time) not ping speed. Ping can be higher but the connection could be 200 times faster, as would be the case comparing my speed to a 50 mb connection. 


  60. Nick

    People with lag either have shit connection or shit ISP's. Also im starting to wonder if people even know what "ping" is… "I HAVE LOW PING ON SPEEDTEST IT SHOULD WORK PROPERLY"  *facepalm*


  61. brandon

    i have a new computer new router new modem new Xbox360 and a new cod disk the last one they sold me wasn't working upgraded my service with Comcast had them come out and connect it all and replaced all wires everything i play is perfect sept cod i turn a corner and it shows me die in the area i was a few seconds before i am good at the game not great but it really does make me mad to see this happen almost every time i die i like to keep my stuff up to date which is why i spent so much money not just for the game but to be penalized for having good connection makes no sense to me


  62. Digga

    PS3 in DMZ, Billion 7800N, 38 down/8 up, excellent ping (consistent), no latency. At any time, day or night hosting a match is a nightmare. Non-hosting matches are just acceptable. This is lag compensation where good connections are penalized beyond the point of fair. Both videos show what I see during lagged matches. Everyone else here rubbishing the videos or denying the fact that this is occurring would think otherwise if they experienced it themselves. The worst example I've see so far is emptying an entire P90 magazine into opponent showing many kill hits, to then take 1 or 2 myself to die. I played the entire match with this happening so I know it's for real. I quit the match (I was hosting), jumped into an already running match (approx 2000 points/per team) I annihilated the opposing team and ended top of the leader board by some margin. I've seen this over and over.
    Because this is artificially being introduced as compensation the developers have to rework their sums/algorithms on this, and/or put matching connection quality/speed in matches.


  63. Digga

    In addition to the above, why not check this out for an explanation:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reNPK8XD-k4 


  64. host lag

    all i want to say is i like MW3 but being a host most of the time and lag which is so bad i have stopped playing. once in a while i take it out to play but now i think am doing just to frustrate myself. there is no point playing.
    during Blackops we had nearly 50-60 mates playing online but now will be lucky to see 4 mates playing MW3. this just proves how poor MW3 has been. most of us suffer from host lag. can't see long future of COD anymore. 


  65. II BadKarma II

    Infinity Ward/Sledgehammer COMPLETELY dropped the ball on MW3! First the lag compensation is TERRIBLE, how does someone in Kansas with a 50meg connection ping to foreign hosts constantly??? I understand the issues that IW has had with the top people leaving but WOW, Activision should simply find a BETTER studio to develop their games. By far the worst of the MW series by far. Do the developers play games online???


  66. Paul

    I am going to vent because I am P**sed. I have recently upgraded to 100mb fibre optic broadband and have had nothing but trouble with MW3 since. I am host unless I join a game part way through, in which case I have a 'normal' game. If I am host I frequently have 20 + deaths per game and can see that killcam does not add up to the game I just played ( Bullets not coming out of my weapon etc) This sucks.


  67. Anonymous

    I too have the unfortunate experience of lag compensation on MW3 for the ps3… seeming to be a second or so behind other players… how this translates in the gameplay is me not being able to have gun fights in the game.. it is too big of a disadvantage to be able to compete. Whereas I can do well in mw1 and mw2, my gameplay with mw3 is a different story. As much as I enjoy the graphics and design of the game, it is too frustrating to bother with playing… I have gone back to the older CODs and waiting for the next realease… for me MW3 was a bust… a frustrating lamer that looked promising but ultimately offered no real platform for which I could compete on…


  68. sebastian

    This is definitely an issue.  Worse is how lag compensation can be visually seen.  When you are dying constantly no matter what you do, at the end of the game you see the LAG in numbers.  The other team is 23-7 (almost all the players) and your team is the exact opposite; down the board.  How anyone can see that and not say there is a problem is ridiculous.  Is that not a FCC violation to manipulate someones connection? 


  69. fucku

    bunch of cunts wanting more advantage over others play with red dot by down loading on the computer while playing. i bet you 10 000 dollars you will want your 5 bar advantage yoiu spoiled shit cunts


  70. purple helmet

    my ping 41-49 screen is blacking out and 5 seconds later i wake up killed and down another life,  thats been on a good day , now the program stops working and cuts out altogether. Compensation I think we should be offered a refund ! 



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